You asked:
Was there a Summer of Love in The
UK or was that just an American thing???
My memory Kent just a US thing we just loved the music. Take care,
Rockin’ Lord Geoff (England)
My memory Kent just a US thing we just loved the music. Take care,
Rockin’ Lord Geoff (England)
Hola Kent,
Wow where has the Summah Gone?
FH67 rolling along and maintaining
its quality ... it never gets boring ... well done.
However the "Ode To Billie Joe"
clip led me to "Harper Valley PTA" from '68, but two songs that compliment one
another (at least in my head).
The Fugitive with David Janssen evoked memories of his attempt at
recording. "The Hidden Island" was a surreal soft spoken ballad of unrequited
love that, at the time, was only heard on late night music shows. Kind of a
tribute to Fantasy Island with a kick in the pants at the end. Pretty decent
lyrics and wordplay.
It came out in '65 so off topic,
but on youtube still.
Have a great Labor Day!
CharlieOFD
Boy, you're not kidding ... this whole YEAR is
flying by for me.
When I was building the 1967 Series I thought it
would be so nice to just relax a little bit and watch it unfold ... I still
check it every morning myself because I can't remember every little detail I
snuck in there. Even having created it I am still amazed by what I find!
(Yeah, I'm pretty proud of this one.)
I wasn't aware of the David Janssen clip ... will
have to check that out. "The Fugitive" was ... and still remains ... one of my
all-time favorite shows. It has aged very well ... good writing, good acting,
good directing ... just a top notch series for the ages.
"Harper Valley PTA"??? Not so much.
(kk)
Your extensive coverage of the
two-part finale of The Fugitive shows your passion for the show - not only as a
fan but one with deep appreciation for all that went into making Dr. Richard
Kimble's four year run a successful one. It's a shame that none of the
principle characters are still with us today as I think they would have
appreciated your tribute.
Edward
Yeah, I loved it ... and I still do. I remember
when the show first went into syndication I was still in school and used to come
home for lunch ... it ran from noon to 1:00 Chicago time and I would sit there
in front of the tv, always having to leave ten minutes before it ended to head
back to school. Frustrating as all hell (but I still watched it every day
anyway!) When a tv station would run the finale, even in syndication, it would
always create a huge buzz of publicity. Just a consistently good show that
still holds up today. (kk)
"The Fugitive" is one of my favorite old shows. I can
still recite the William Conrad ("Cannon") intro word for word. Don't ask me
why!
I always thought -- no matter how bad the economy was,
Richard Kimble had no trouble finding a new job every week.
Frank B.
Kent,
I really enjoyed your coverage of the 50th anniversary of the final episode of The Fugitive. That stands as one of my personal Top 5 significant TV moments of all time. I can still hear announcer Hank Simms' voice saying "August 29th, 1967 - The Day The Running Stopped."
David Lewis
That wasn't William Conrad?
Check out this clip ... and listen to that famous line ... where the heck did THIS come from?!?!? (kk)
I really enjoyed your coverage of the 50th anniversary of the final episode of The Fugitive. That stands as one of my personal Top 5 significant TV moments of all time. I can still hear announcer Hank Simms' voice saying "August 29th, 1967 - The Day The Running Stopped."
David Lewis
That wasn't William Conrad?
Check out this clip ... and listen to that famous line ... where the heck did THIS come from?!?!? (kk)
>>>I always thought -- no matter how
bad the economy was, Richard Kimble had no trouble finding a new job every
week. (Frank B)
Not only did Richard Kimble have a cool job in every town, he had a number of hot girl friends.
Randy
Yes, he did ... and they all seemed to fall in love with him in under 20 minutes!!! (It didn't seem like he was missing his wife all that much, did it???) kk
Not only did Richard Kimble have a cool job in every town, he had a number of hot girl friends.
Randy
Yes, he did ... and they all seemed to fall in love with him in under 20 minutes!!! (It didn't seem like he was missing his wife all that much, did it???) kk
Kent:
Diggin' the more-or-less interactive back and forth!
I'd like to respond to Jimmy Pilster's (really great) piece:
It is really good to know that Jimmy was happy. He was a really important motivator for on-stage energy! And he's a solid business motivator as well.
I think that perhaps my thoughts on Moby Grape were misinterpreted: I felt that they, in their own way, were as poorly managed by CBS as we were. They were over-hyped, to where the public was turned-off. We were under-promoted, to where only our (greater midwest) fans 'got it'.
A few thoughts on 'First Train', et al.
...
I'm just being the same person that I was in the 60's:
looking for a better take, a new sound. It's my way of being true to the spirit
of this. I've had volumes of feedback from those who see and sense this, which
I'd be glad to share (if they don't mind) ... but for me, if you REALLY want to
pay tribute, you've got to dig down and find that part of you that drove you
back then ... and bring it.
It's the best that I have to offer.
All the best,
James
Hey Kent (and
Jim):
Jim Pilster's recollections are
spot on. He and I lived for a live performance. It is really hard to relate what
the band was at that particular time. We sang great. We played great. And we had
an absolutely explosive live show. At that time, groups that played their own
instruments just came out on stage stood behind a microphone and sang the songs.
We didn't. We took up the whole stage and projected manic energy for 90 minutes.
The reason we did this is that we were so excited to play our songs ... we
wanted people to feel not only the song but the energy that we had. Being 72, we
are just not going to be able to replicate that, although we can make the song
sound as good as possible.
My personal favorite set for the four songs we do would
be "It Could Be We're In Love," "I Wanna Meet You," "Up On The Roof," and "Sugar
And Spice." But there are three of us in the group and some of us want to do
songs one way and others want to do things another way. The secret to us playing
currently is compromise.
I do have an idea. Maybe we could have the fans give us
an idea of the four songs they would like us to perform. They can either send
them into you at Forgotten Hits, they could send them to the Cryan' Shames
website on Facebook or they can send them to my page, or Jim Pilster's page, or
James Fairs' page.
I want all of you to know that I consider it a great
joy to be able to play this music still. Even though we will never be able to
capture the magic of our youth, hearing the songs again can give all of us great
memories of a magical time passed.
Toad
I'm up for taking votes but my guess is they'll come in
exactly the way you've listed them here. If taken in the true spirit of
"Majority Rules," then the set list should be golden. And, I would encourage
you guys to do some shows outside the realm of Cornerstones so you can have it both
ways as a means of satisfying EVERYONE in the band ... think how many more cool
songs could be added. (James had suggested "Hey Joe" and has even written a new
track ... honestly within the context of a stand-alone Cryan' Shames show, the
prospects are limitless! And I'll betcha fans would LOVE to see it!)
But, for the sake of Cornerstones, put your very best foot forward ... and give the fans what they came to hear. (kk)
In reference to a
comment that Jim Pilster made on your website, yes, we all get screwed back in
the day.
First off, these are my
feelings, so I’m not speaking for Nick Fortuna, Dennis Tufano, John Poulos or
Marty Grebb.
I think it was because of several
reasons. We were young, new and trusting. In 1965, we didn’t care about anything
except making music, and meeting girls. We didn’t pay much attention to the
business side of it.
Yeah, there were deals cut behind
closed doors that we didn’t know about, and we really didn’t care, and because
of that, we were taken advantage of … wish I knew then what I know now. Carl
Bonafede may have gotten money from USA Records we didn’t know about, but we
paid him 10% of what we made, and the guy worked his ass off for us.
Unfortunately our parents didn’t get involved and trusted everyone at the time.
Carl Bonafede brought us Kind
Of A Drag. The Buckinghams went as far as we could in and around Chicago and the
tri-state area. We had a lot of momentum and a great following. The band looked
great, and sounded great, but we desperately needed a national hit, an original
song and Bonafede found that for us with Kind Of A Drag. That changed
everything! The song went to #1 nationally and our contract with USA ran out.
Like I said, we didn’t know much about the business end of the music business,
but collectively we knew down deep inside we were headed to being one hit
wonders like many other Chicago bands at the time. Some really good bands became
no hit wonders because they stayed with certain Chicago music people. Carl
Bonafede was the first to admit he couldn’t take us any further. Because of
Bonafede and USA we missed out on capitalizing on the #1 success of Kind Of A
Drag ... no national TV, no teen magazine articles, not much promotion.
Thats when James William Guercio, and
Garrick Ebbins came along. Guercio was originally from Chicago but now was
writing songs and playing with Chad & Jeremy. Ebbins was an LA guy whose
father, I think, managed Anthony Quinn. Even with a #1 record we still weren’t
making any serious money.
I remember being threatened by
certain people associated with USA Records that we’d never get another record
played on Chicago radio. We were all scared, afraid they were right. We made the
move anyway.
Guercio signed us with Columbia, we
recorded another Jim Holvay song, Don’t You Care, and soon found out Chicago had
to play it because it took off everywhere in the country. In other words, the
treat had no teeth. We probably got screwed by USA as I never saw any serious
money from them.
Guercio was not only our manager,
but was also our record producer. God only knows what kind of deal he had with
Columbia. We had four top ten records he produced while managing us. We should
have known something was wrong. Even with all those hits, we were drawing a
salary of about $100 a week and Guercio was driving around LA in a Jaguar XKE
and wearing Brioni suits. Also, his accountant handled all the money we made,
definitely a conflict of interest. In 1967 we were on the road playing maybe 250
or more dates at about $4,000 per date ... that could have been $1,000,000 or
more gross that year? And we were getting $100 per week ... ha! In 1967, a
million was like 10 million today.
At the time I think the highest
paid group was the Beach Boys, making about $10,000 per night.
When I think about it, Guercio only
managed us for a little over a year. Things came to a head when we finally
realized there was money to be made in music publishing. Even though none of us
were writers at the time except Marty Grebb, but even Marty never wrote a hit. I
believe Jim Guercio took publishing and some of the writing from Holvay, too.
Guercio was way ahead of us ... he realized early on there was a lot of money to
be made from publishing.
When Guercio promised us publishing
on our song writing from the Portraits album and then reneged, we fired him.
Until today I think am the only one who thinks it was a mistake ... we shouldn’t
have left him. I believe we would have had at least another three hits if we
stayed with Jim, maybe more. After that we made a lot more mistakes until we
disbanded by 1970.
Carl Bonafede is still a dear
friend. I am probably the only Buckingham that still communicates with Guercio.
He gave me an interview for an autobiography that I still haven’t finished. It
shed some light on things and we talk occasionally. Don’t get me wrong, I have
reminded him of the fact that I felt he wasn’t looking out for us and took
advantage of the situation. But like I said, he managed us for barely over a
year, and it was 50 years ago. I can’t be bitter because since the resurgence in
our music in 1980, and because of our great fans, Nick Fortuna and I have been
able to resurrect The Buckinghams with great success. It has allowed us to make
a living from what we love to do ... make music.
Carl GiammareseThe
Buckinghams
I do believe EVERYBODY got screwed in some fashion back in
the day ... and I'm sure it's still going on to some degree today. You had a
bunch of teenage and barely 20 kids living their ultimate dream ... playing
music ... having the adoration of the fans ... touring the country and getting
on tv ... most were happily living in the moment with little thought as to what
might be going on behind the scenes. In hindsight, they all got cheated ... but
at the time they were all just having too much fun to really think about it.
(And think of the schedules and pressures back then!) Not much anybody can do
about it now (although most have taken all these matters into their own hands at
this point to at least know where every dollar is being spent!) Still, I'd
venture to say that most, if not all, wouldn't have considered trading it away
even for a moment. The priceless memories ... NOTHING can take that away. SO
proud that we could share so many with our readers through Forgotten Hits over
the years. Back in the day we couldn't have dreamed of getting anywhere near
these artists ... but now, some fifty years on, I am happy to claim so many of
them as friends and supporters of what we do here. We truly have come full
cycle. And I believe that most (if not all) of these artists are more
appreciative NOW of the success and loyalty they've earned than at any time when
they were living in the bubble of success. (kk)
One reason I got into the business end of music was that even a dozen years after picking up a guitar, I wanted to know how the recording industry worked, so I wouldn't get screwed out of the mega millions I stood to earn from my hit singles and albums. Also I wanted to make sure I got that extra dollar for eight tracks.
I would have been that
teenager Carl talks about in his response to the Cryan' Shames article you
posted.
You were a musician, Kent
... you know it could have been you, too. All it takes is the right set of ears
and eyes at the right time, and it's, "C'mon, kid, we're gonna make you a star."
Truth be told, managers who
will go to the mat for their clients are very few. The government has nothing on
the suits in the record business when it comes to creative accounting.
We had a saying at a one of
the record distributors I worked for. The record went out gold, and came back
platinum. It is difficult to fathom how 50,000 singles ordered end up to be
75,000 singles returned. Then, by the time the final accounting is done, and by
the time the figures are shown to the client, the count is now 100,000. So much
for your advance, buckaroo.
Of course we're assuming
Carl and the others ever saw a realistic accounting. Columbia wasn't as bad as
some others. Dunhill and Motown come to mind, not to mention the countless
number of small labels that pop up and disappear after ripping off their artist.
There's promotional
expenses, recording costs, and someone's got to put up the payola money. It's
certainly not gonna be Clive Davis, Berry Gordy, Morris Levy, or any other
executive. Any number of musicians who participate in FH can attest to it.
It's a coincidence that
Carl's post runs on the anniversary of Brian Epstein's death. By all accounts,
it seems that Brian was a fair manager, but he too was naive. He shouldn't have
allowed the Beatles to sell their publishing. Elvis Presley is probably the
biggest name in entertainment ever ... talk about getting the short end of the
stick!
Colonel Parker rightly
assumed that as long as his boy had more money than he knew what to do with, he
would (could) pocket the rest. Can you imagine the money Elvis must have brought
in thru record sales, movies, merchandise sales, etc? I would have asked
Priscilla where did the money go?
Now that us aging baby
boomers have either had their rock and roll dreams come true, or shattered, it's
time to pass the advice on to the next generation, or the one after that.
Rule #1: Don't sign
anything, especially if you're not 21.
Rule #2: Get two lawyers
to look at the contract. Make sure they don't know one another, and don't tell
either about the other.
Rule #3: Get an accountant
... and don't trust him / her either. If it sounds funky to you, it probably is.
No matter what figure they
throw at you, it's too low.
I know now of the
shenanigans the labels play, but at age 67 I don't think my rock and roll dreams
are going to come true ... unless I can get Jim Steinman to produce my music.
I've still got my master
recordings. If he's not available, I'd settle for Jim Peterik or Jimy Sohns.
At this point in time, if
it means a million seller, I'll give you a slice of the publishing.
Have your people call mine.
Kent has the
number.
Jack Levin
Certainly enjoying the return of WLS’s 1967
Super Summer promotion including the Treasure Truck.
I was the WLS PD at that time and
I had to fight ABC New York tooth and nail to get the funds for that promotion.
While WLS was making money hand over fist, it was being funneled into new
station FM budgets which were at that time a money pit trying to get a foothold
in the market. Now it’s the other way
around!
This week in '67 WLS charted “Zip
Code” by the Five Americans at #15 and WCFL listed it as #17. Both Jim Stagg,
the PD at WCFL and I were guessing on the success of that song and we both
struck out!
Clark Weber
Well, it was big in Chicago ... #12 on WLS ... and I liked
it! (In fact, I still do!) kk
Perhaps the trippiest single during the Summer
Of Love came from the UK group Traffic. "Hole In My Shoe," their second single,
was released at the end of August, 1967. It was mostly a Dave Mason production
and, to the rest of the group's dismay, the British public loved it. The now
psych-pop classic became the group's biggest hit, peaking at UK #2, but failed
to chart in the US.
The lyrics suggested LSD hallucinogenic
imagery although Mason insisted the ideas for the song came to him in a dream.
Nonetheless the record created discord within the group as the others didn't
want Traffic to be a pop singles band. Steve Winwood envisioned them being more
of an eclectic blend of English folk rock, jazz, blues, and psychedelia.
Contentiousness over differences of musical opinion led Mason to briefly leave
the group by year's end.
Traffic would become a staple of American
album oriented FM rock stations in the Seventies. The young girl in the song
with the whispered interlude about an albatross was Island Records boss Chris
Blackwell's stepdaughter.
"I climbed on the back of a giant
albatross,
Which flew through a crack in the
cloud,
To a place where happiness reigned all year
round,
And music played ever so loudly"
Peter Green was inspired by it to name his
Fleetwood Mac 1969 UK #1 instrumental "Albatross".
Mike G
Mike G